1 00:00:22,490 --> 00:00:09,089 welcome to the skeptic zone the podcast 2 00:00:29,370 --> 00:00:25,260 hello and welcome to the skeptic zone 3 00:00:34,020 --> 00:00:29,380 episode number 375 for the 27th of 4 00:00:38,940 --> 00:00:34,030 December 2015 the last skeptic zone 4 5 00:00:42,180 --> 00:00:38,950 2015 and to round off 2015 we have a 6 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:42,190 special episode of special dr. Carl dr. 7 00:00:47,100 --> 00:00:43,930 Cohen are those people in Australia I 8 00:00:49,710 --> 00:00:47,110 don't need any prompting to know who dr. 9 00:00:52,170 --> 00:00:49,720 Carl is for those people listening 10 00:00:55,410 --> 00:00:52,180 internationally who may not caught up 11 00:00:58,860 --> 00:00:55,420 with dr. Carl I guess one way to look at 12 00:01:01,920 --> 00:00:58,870 him is that he's the Australian Bill Nye 13 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:01,930 or Bill Nye is the American dr. Carl 14 00:01:07,530 --> 00:01:04,690 something like that he has been a media 15 00:01:10,859 --> 00:01:07,540 presence in Australian homes for decades 16 00:01:12,930 --> 00:01:10,869 and he always has something interesting 17 00:01:16,109 --> 00:01:12,940 to say a strong supporter of science and 18 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:16,119 indeed he is a previous recipient of 19 00:01:22,039 --> 00:01:19,210 Australian skeptic of the year so this 20 00:01:24,390 --> 00:01:22,049 episode of the skeptic zone is a special 21 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:24,400 conversation with dr. Carl dr. Carl 22 00:01:27,980 --> 00:01:26,650 crucial miss key I caught up with him 23 00:01:31,950 --> 00:01:27,990 just the other day at Sydney University 24 00:01:35,039 --> 00:01:31,960 and we chatted about chocolate naked 25 00:01:37,670 --> 00:01:35,049 mole rats the gullible generation human 26 00:01:41,130 --> 00:01:37,680 evolution DNA Arnold Schwarzenegger and 27 00:01:45,180 --> 00:01:41,140 much more but now it's time for me to 28 00:01:48,630 --> 00:01:45,190 run downstairs make up some chocolate 29 00:01:50,820 --> 00:01:48,640 chip pancakes oh yes well I'm doing that 30 00:02:12,520 --> 00:01:50,830 I hope you enjoy this episode of the 31 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:16,370 so I'm here at Sydney Uni enjoying some 32 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:18,090 chocolate and coffee with none other 33 00:02:23,330 --> 00:02:20,970 than dr. Carl hello dr. Carl Hawaii with 34 00:02:25,010 --> 00:02:23,340 my mouth full of chocolate I have this 35 00:02:27,380 --> 00:02:25,020 perverse thing where I like to maximize 36 00:02:30,500 --> 00:02:27,390 the pleasure and so I let it melt in my 37 00:02:33,410 --> 00:02:30,510 mouth now this is one of god's little 38 00:02:35,990 --> 00:02:33,420 jokes again there are six main 39 00:02:37,699 --> 00:02:36,000 crystalline forms of chocolate and the 40 00:02:38,930 --> 00:02:37,709 one that's the most delicious the one of 41 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:38,940 melts in your mouth and there's a range 42 00:02:44,449 --> 00:02:40,290 ranging from Molly in your mouth all the 43 00:02:45,620 --> 00:02:44,459 way to something like candle wax the one 44 00:02:48,350 --> 00:02:45,630 that melts in your mouth is the most 45 00:02:51,470 --> 00:02:48,360 unstable once again got one of god's 46 00:02:53,900 --> 00:02:51,480 little jokes jugaad is just full of it 47 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:53,910 mature audiences yeah really stuffed up 48 00:02:57,830 --> 00:02:55,890 on the knee joint hip joint I can go 49 00:03:00,470 --> 00:02:57,840 with and they joined forget it maybe you 50 00:03:03,770 --> 00:03:00,480 must have a holiday I saw you talking 51 00:03:05,990 --> 00:03:03,780 about the body and things like this I 52 00:03:07,850 --> 00:03:06,000 saw you just the other day on TV talking 53 00:03:10,430 --> 00:03:07,860 about the naked mole rat and immortality 54 00:03:13,910 --> 00:03:10,440 ah now that's after they come all right 55 00:03:15,319 --> 00:03:13,920 yeah so what's the deal with the naked 56 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:15,329 mole rat you're saying it's not naked 57 00:03:18,710 --> 00:03:16,890 it's not a mole it's not a rat for 58 00:03:21,860 --> 00:03:18,720 beginners ok it's not naked because it 59 00:03:23,539 --> 00:03:21,870 has hair oh when I say here you know 60 00:03:26,900 --> 00:03:23,549 I've got a hundred thousand hairs on our 61 00:03:28,039 --> 00:03:26,910 scholar at least you do and about 5 62 00:03:30,020 --> 00:03:28,049 million all together on your body but 63 00:03:32,150 --> 00:03:30,030 most of them are invisible this is got a 64 00:03:35,330 --> 00:03:32,160 hundred hair's not 100 million 100 so 65 00:03:37,580 --> 00:03:35,340 it's not fully naked as close my all is 66 00:03:39,380 --> 00:03:37,590 on a mole rat it's not a wrap it 67 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:39,390 basically looks like a small sausage 68 00:03:43,550 --> 00:03:41,010 that you cook at a barbecue with saber 69 00:03:45,860 --> 00:03:43,560 teeth on one end mm-hmm and it's really 70 00:03:47,569 --> 00:03:45,870 weird hmm that last bit of shock is 71 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:47,579 coming down nicely there's good 72 00:03:52,940 --> 00:03:50,010 chocolate yeah well in else it's 73 00:03:55,580 --> 00:03:52,950 probably loaded with things but nervous 74 00:03:58,539 --> 00:03:55,590 you know so moving right along the naked 75 00:04:02,539 --> 00:03:58,549 mole rat does not get cancer it does not 76 00:04:07,670 --> 00:04:02,549 get older so you and I a born grow to 77 00:04:11,030 --> 00:04:07,680 adulthood and then the skin goes gets 78 00:04:13,340 --> 00:04:11,040 thinner the muscles weaken the oysters 79 00:04:16,690 --> 00:04:13,350 flexibility they begin to wear out the 80 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:16,700 hair goes the makeup of hormones go 81 00:04:19,319 --> 00:04:18,930 everything gradually was down once 82 00:04:23,689 --> 00:04:19,329 you've 83 00:04:27,179 --> 00:04:23,699 aged peak sexual reproducibility however 84 00:04:29,999 --> 00:04:27,189 with the naked mole rat it sort of grows 85 00:04:33,089 --> 00:04:30,009 by the way for rats of that size rodents 86 00:04:34,860 --> 00:04:33,099 the average age that they get to is 87 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:34,870 about one the half years and then ninety 88 00:04:38,429 --> 00:04:36,849 percent died of cancer hmmm ninety 89 00:04:40,980 --> 00:04:38,439 percent humans about ten to fifteen 90 00:04:44,490 --> 00:04:40,990 percent naked mole rat 0 so they get to 91 00:04:48,179 --> 00:04:44,500 be adults and then they just get older 92 00:04:50,969 --> 00:04:48,189 they do not show any other signs of 93 00:04:53,369 --> 00:04:50,979 aging they just get older and you get 94 00:04:55,770 --> 00:04:53,379 past one and a half years and up to one 95 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:55,780 and a half decades how do you a need 96 00:04:59,490 --> 00:04:58,090 something that doesn't get older if you 97 00:05:00,779 --> 00:04:59,500 come across a naked mall right how would 98 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:00,789 you determine how old it don't know 99 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:02,770 you'd have to look at the literature I 100 00:05:06,689 --> 00:05:04,210 reckon they might put a little Nixon 101 00:05:08,399 --> 00:05:06,699 years or something like that so they'd 102 00:05:10,469 --> 00:05:08,409 have to tag them and keep town some way 103 00:05:14,700 --> 00:05:10,479 but they get to be 30 years of age 104 00:05:17,219 --> 00:05:14,710 without any signs of aging 30-34 a 105 00:05:19,559 --> 00:05:17,229 little mammal fredo mountain and no 106 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:19,569 signs of aging and we don't know why and 107 00:05:23,339 --> 00:05:21,490 so do they died we don't know why they 108 00:05:24,869 --> 00:05:23,349 also don't do thermoregulation like you 109 00:05:28,379 --> 00:05:24,879 only I try to keep our temperature 110 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:28,389 constant around 37 there 32 which is the 111 00:05:32,969 --> 00:05:29,849 temperature of where they live which is 112 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:32,979 top right-hand corner of Africa I know 113 00:05:37,379 --> 00:05:35,050 that the geographers I saw having hissy 114 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:37,389 fits at this stage okay the north or 115 00:05:42,170 --> 00:05:39,490 west if you like snow north otago 116 00:05:44,909 --> 00:05:42,180 northeast then livin the high plateaus 117 00:05:46,430 --> 00:05:44,919 underground and they've been there for 118 00:05:48,899 --> 00:05:46,440 about two and half million years and 119 00:05:53,010 --> 00:05:48,909 they just build these tunnels kilometres 120 00:05:54,149 --> 00:05:53,020 long and the as a result have one 121 00:05:57,420 --> 00:05:54,159 quarter of all their muscles in their 122 00:05:58,619 --> 00:05:57,430 jaw we have it in our legs and they just 123 00:06:01,019 --> 00:05:58,629 make these tunnels and then the ground 124 00:06:03,149 --> 00:06:01,029 does their summer irrigation for them 125 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:03,159 they also don't feel chemical pain so 126 00:06:07,649 --> 00:06:05,370 you think what's the chemical pain well 127 00:06:09,540 --> 00:06:07,659 there's different sorts of pain is sharp 128 00:06:11,579 --> 00:06:09,550 pain there's dull pain and there's 129 00:06:13,709 --> 00:06:11,589 chemical pain like burning they don't 130 00:06:15,659 --> 00:06:13,719 get that acid burning pain which is 131 00:06:17,689 --> 00:06:15,669 essential for them because while you and 132 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:17,699 I enjoy in inverted commas and 133 00:06:21,930 --> 00:06:19,810 atmosphere was an in 134 00:06:24,990 --> 00:06:21,940 carbon dioxide level of 400 parts per 135 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:25,000 million they're not 400 there fifty 136 00:06:28,890 --> 00:06:27,250 thousand five percent and you and I 137 00:06:30,570 --> 00:06:28,900 would be very shortly dead from that 138 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:30,580 they don't die from it and that it's 139 00:06:35,970 --> 00:06:32,530 only pain and the relevance of this to 140 00:06:40,350 --> 00:06:35,980 humans is that some of the nerves 141 00:06:44,250 --> 00:06:40,360 associated with post-traumatic pain seem 142 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:44,260 to be chemical sensing nerves if we can 143 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:46,090 understand how they work and don't work 144 00:06:50,909 --> 00:06:48,690 then maybe we can relieve this in humans 145 00:06:52,469 --> 00:06:50,919 there are some sorts of pain that we 146 00:06:55,230 --> 00:06:52,479 cannot relieve in humans unfortunately 147 00:06:56,940 --> 00:06:55,240 and this sort of post-traumatic pain 148 00:06:58,680 --> 00:06:56,950 we've had an injury the injury heals and 149 00:06:59,879 --> 00:06:58,690 still a pain is there there's no point 150 00:07:01,620 --> 00:06:59,889 in having the pain you don't need to 151 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:01,630 have it like a phantom pain our 152 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:03,610 different ago different just woke up a 153 00:07:09,659 --> 00:07:06,250 story on another family that doesn't 154 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:09,669 have pain any pain at all but anyway 155 00:07:13,879 --> 00:07:11,410 this is a source for another time and 156 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:13,889 they don't have any subcutaneous fat and 157 00:07:19,469 --> 00:07:17,650 they live in a weird beehive like 158 00:07:21,930 --> 00:07:19,479 existence where there's one female who 159 00:07:23,610 --> 00:07:21,940 does all of sex or sexing and she has 160 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:23,620 all the babies and nobody else has 161 00:07:26,940 --> 00:07:24,970 babies and everybody's in the hive 162 00:07:28,770 --> 00:07:26,950 structure and they they like bees there 163 00:07:31,850 --> 00:07:28,780 are workers yeah they're like these the 164 00:07:34,170 --> 00:07:31,860 only mammal that does this and then they 165 00:07:36,029 --> 00:07:34,180 don't get cancer we don't know what a 166 00:07:39,029 --> 00:07:36,039 couple of theories we don't know why so 167 00:07:40,350 --> 00:07:39,039 this is just showing that there's so 168 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:40,360 many more exciting things to discover 169 00:07:44,430 --> 00:07:42,970 inside now let's use this as a bit of a 170 00:07:46,620 --> 00:07:44,440 segue we're not talking about animals 171 00:07:49,290 --> 00:07:46,630 that don't get cancer and there's a 172 00:07:51,570 --> 00:07:49,300 common myth out there that sharks don't 173 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:51,580 get cancer which led to people selling 174 00:07:56,909 --> 00:07:54,850 stuff called shock [\h__\h] and tablets or 175 00:07:58,320 --> 00:07:56,919 something God so let's use this as a 176 00:08:01,200 --> 00:07:58,330 segue to talk about what you've been 177 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:01,210 talking about lately which is loosely 178 00:08:05,820 --> 00:08:03,250 termed the gullible generation but it 179 00:08:09,890 --> 00:08:05,830 should be the gullible generation yes so 180 00:08:14,250 --> 00:08:09,900 if you go way back to the Great Fire of 181 00:08:17,159 --> 00:08:14,260 Rome and Nero's out of town and then 182 00:08:19,290 --> 00:08:17,169 they're having won their celebrations at 183 00:08:21,810 --> 00:08:19,300 the Circus Maximus if you been to Rome 184 00:08:23,700 --> 00:08:21,820 oh it's amazing oh yeah at the Coliseum 185 00:08:26,190 --> 00:08:23,710 which could take 70,000 people that's 186 00:08:28,620 --> 00:08:26,200 the size almost as the melbourne cricket 187 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:28,630 ground right hmm you can take 70,000 188 00:08:32,969 --> 00:08:29,770 people eat 189 00:08:36,630 --> 00:08:32,979 they had it set up so that in a morning 190 00:08:39,180 --> 00:08:36,640 you could have boat races and Wars so 191 00:08:42,269 --> 00:08:39,190 good yeah and so they could kill each 192 00:08:43,469 --> 00:08:42,279 other and isn't drown after the 193 00:08:45,060 --> 00:08:43,479 amusement of the populace and then 194 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:45,070 everybody go out and have lunch then 195 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:46,930 come back and then be all dry and then 196 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:49,450 you'd have a whole bunch of people fired 197 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:51,250 the gladiators fighting the Lions and 198 00:08:56,670 --> 00:08:53,410 literally people flying through the air 199 00:08:58,410 --> 00:08:56,680 without ropes I heard that they would 200 00:09:01,590 --> 00:08:58,420 get up to extraordinary things are very 201 00:09:02,970 --> 00:09:01,600 creative mmmmmm amazing by the way the 202 00:09:04,769 --> 00:09:02,980 flight through the year without ropes 203 00:09:07,290 --> 00:09:04,779 was very simple they just got some poor 204 00:09:08,519 --> 00:09:07,300 bugger made him wear some wings got him 205 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:08,529 on a catapult him through through the 206 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:11,010 air everything was fine until he landed 207 00:09:16,980 --> 00:09:14,290 but we could laugh Nellie I know this is 208 00:09:19,050 --> 00:09:16,990 tough times but it was 10 times the 209 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:19,060 Coliseum was big the Circus Maximus was 210 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:22,570 bigger 150,000 people it was basically 211 00:09:26,610 --> 00:09:24,370 an oval and people go racing up and down 212 00:09:27,810 --> 00:09:26,620 the oval and around and around and so 213 00:09:29,819 --> 00:09:27,820 they were gearing up for one of the big 214 00:09:31,710 --> 00:09:29,829 circus maximus festivals and they're all 215 00:09:34,079 --> 00:09:31,720 these people selling food on the streets 216 00:09:35,790 --> 00:09:34,089 and it's thought of the fire arose from 217 00:09:38,370 --> 00:09:35,800 one of the food sellers on the streets 218 00:09:41,100 --> 00:09:38,380 hmm Nero's out of town comes back starts 219 00:09:43,079 --> 00:09:41,110 organizing stuff and then all the rumors 220 00:09:45,780 --> 00:09:43,089 start going that he actually said the 221 00:09:48,150 --> 00:09:45,790 fire so that you get land that he could 222 00:09:50,460 --> 00:09:48,160 then use for his own palaces but he 223 00:09:52,050 --> 00:09:50,470 didn't excuse he just kill anybody so 224 00:09:54,329 --> 00:09:52,060 that was one of the first cases i come 225 00:09:56,190 --> 00:09:54,339 across of a whole bunch of different 226 00:09:58,410 --> 00:09:56,200 rumors all of which is agree with each 227 00:10:01,470 --> 00:09:58,420 other about the real of course of what's 228 00:10:03,510 --> 00:10:01,480 going on then we move on some 1600 years 229 00:10:05,490 --> 00:10:03,520 for the great fire of london and there's 230 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:05,500 some poor guy called Richard Herbert so 231 00:10:13,110 --> 00:10:09,130 Richard herbs picked up because he's 232 00:10:14,610 --> 00:10:13,120 both a Catholic which wasn't popular in 233 00:10:16,519 --> 00:10:14,620 England at their time and also a 234 00:10:19,319 --> 00:10:16,529 Frenchman though having this second 235 00:10:20,940 --> 00:10:19,329 anglo-dutch war and the French roll over 236 00:10:23,730 --> 00:10:20,950 the Dutch and so after a little bit of 237 00:10:26,100 --> 00:10:23,740 torture he confessed to having started 238 00:10:27,870 --> 00:10:26,110 the fire in Westminster to problems the 239 00:10:30,389 --> 00:10:27,880 fire actually started a bakery in 240 00:10:31,710 --> 00:10:30,399 pudding Lane and thousands of Allah 241 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:31,720 thousands but hundreds of witnesses 242 00:10:37,050 --> 00:10:33,930 attested to this and secondly 243 00:10:38,610 --> 00:10:37,060 Westminster was that no stage infected 244 00:10:40,750 --> 00:10:38,620 by the fire it completely missed out on 245 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:40,760 the fire so they realize that 246 00:10:44,380 --> 00:10:42,290 made a mistake tortured him a bit more 247 00:10:47,650 --> 00:10:44,390 and then he confessed to starting the 248 00:10:49,690 --> 00:10:47,660 fire by throwing a fire grenade through 249 00:10:51,220 --> 00:10:49,700 an open window in the bakery on pudding 250 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:51,230 Lane and the problems was that were 251 00:10:55,810 --> 00:10:54,770 firstly the bakery had no windows 252 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:55,820 secondly he was crippled in his 253 00:10:59,290 --> 00:10:56,930 shoulders so he couldn't throw anything 254 00:11:01,390 --> 00:10:59,300 thirdly he didn't land in the United 255 00:11:04,060 --> 00:11:01,400 Kingdom or the or Great Britain until 256 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:04,070 two days after fire started but he was 257 00:11:08,560 --> 00:11:06,770 guilty of being a Catholic and French 258 00:11:11,020 --> 00:11:08,570 and so therefore he got home and the 259 00:11:14,410 --> 00:11:11,030 rumor was so powerful that the populace 260 00:11:16,420 --> 00:11:14,420 was so infuriated with him that as his 261 00:11:19,030 --> 00:11:16,430 body was lowered from the gala as they 262 00:11:20,590 --> 00:11:19,040 tore him apart literally while he was 263 00:11:22,180 --> 00:11:20,600 still sort of twitching away they tore 264 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:22,190 him to pieces nothing's changed I mean 265 00:11:26,550 --> 00:11:23,930 we get these rumors going around 266 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:26,560 especially now in social media and 267 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:29,090 people still would rather cling onto the 268 00:11:32,530 --> 00:11:30,770 first thing they read as fact and and 269 00:11:35,380 --> 00:11:32,540 and then proceed down that line it's 270 00:11:36,910 --> 00:11:35,390 quite staggering it is strange it 271 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:36,920 continues in the Middle Ages like the 272 00:11:40,750 --> 00:11:39,170 classic case or more recently is that 273 00:11:43,300 --> 00:11:40,760 the ancients used to think that the 274 00:11:45,490 --> 00:11:43,310 world was flat if you read my 25th book 275 00:11:47,500 --> 00:11:45,500 that turns out that that was started 276 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:47,510 both simultaneously by coincidence in 277 00:11:52,330 --> 00:11:49,970 both England no in both France and the 278 00:11:54,370 --> 00:11:52,340 United States as an example of hey here 279 00:11:56,860 --> 00:11:54,380 we are in 1880 we are masters of the 280 00:11:58,030 --> 00:11:56,870 universe god we are so sophisticated you 281 00:11:59,470 --> 00:11:58,040 know back in the old days I used to 282 00:12:01,000 --> 00:11:59,480 think the world was flat right and it 283 00:12:02,680 --> 00:12:01,010 didn't like anybody who's taking a 284 00:12:04,270 --> 00:12:02,690 sailing boat out to sea yeah and you see 285 00:12:06,340 --> 00:12:04,280 a ship come over the horizon firstly you 286 00:12:07,990 --> 00:12:06,350 see the tip of the mast in easier yo 287 00:12:10,150 --> 00:12:08,000 they knew the world was read that was 288 00:12:12,100 --> 00:12:10,160 put to me once it was but somebody said 289 00:12:13,810 --> 00:12:12,110 are you skeptics you think you're so 290 00:12:16,330 --> 00:12:13,820 clever you used you people used to think 291 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:16,340 the world was flat and now I'm shaking 292 00:12:20,650 --> 00:12:18,890 wedding how do I even reply to such a 293 00:12:22,420 --> 00:12:20,660 silly you know he said they're wrong 294 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:22,430 which is hard because then you offend 295 00:12:26,470 --> 00:12:24,890 them and then following 120 years of 296 00:12:28,870 --> 00:12:26,480 letters to the editor the New York Times 297 00:12:30,850 --> 00:12:28,880 beginning in 1880 up to the present a 298 00:12:32,620 --> 00:12:30,860 whole bunch of conspiracy theories come 299 00:12:35,620 --> 00:12:32,630 up near different conspiracy theories 300 00:12:38,110 --> 00:12:35,630 sometimes it's the white sex trade 301 00:12:40,930 --> 00:12:38,120 against innocent females now sometimes 302 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:40,940 as the the big business is trying to 303 00:12:45,730 --> 00:12:43,610 take over the running of the world in 304 00:12:47,470 --> 00:12:45,740 bar fights political influence then it's 305 00:12:49,980 --> 00:12:47,480 the Reds under the bed the Communists 306 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:49,990 and then there's the Japanese men 307 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:52,330 in Chinese menace and then there's a 308 00:12:56,070 --> 00:12:54,730 vietnamese medicine then it's the drug 309 00:12:57,449 --> 00:12:56,080 menace and there's all these conspiracy 310 00:12:58,769 --> 00:12:57,459 theories of pop up and go there and then 311 00:13:01,290 --> 00:12:58,779 there are little spikes in the system 312 00:13:02,970 --> 00:13:01,300 yeah and currently the most popular one 313 00:13:07,290 --> 00:13:02,980 is that the government can't be trusted 314 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:07,300 in anything and so I see the media is 315 00:13:13,019 --> 00:13:11,410 being a way of spreading the myths to 316 00:13:17,269 --> 00:13:13,029 the gold ball more quickly so before it 317 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:17,279 used to take weeks or years like I had a 318 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:19,810 friend who was a car mechanic made of 319 00:13:22,980 --> 00:13:21,850 mine and he was really the car mechanics 320 00:13:25,139 --> 00:13:22,990 are not much into anything else in about 321 00:13:27,090 --> 00:13:25,149 15 years after everybody else he started 322 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:27,100 getting into the big business conspiracy 323 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:30,610 anybody saying oh no that's so 1985 man 324 00:13:34,980 --> 00:13:33,250 to see you 2,000 now and so it does he 325 00:13:37,079 --> 00:13:34,990 have the social media it gets everybody 326 00:13:40,350 --> 00:13:37,089 up to speed immediately yeah yeah yeah 327 00:13:44,010 --> 00:13:40,360 oh and it's so we have a whole bunch of 328 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:44,020 myths and they seem to arise either from 329 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:48,130 the media itself trying to get stories 330 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:51,850 out or from false marketing false 331 00:13:56,370 --> 00:13:54,490 advertising false publicity as well as 332 00:13:58,199 --> 00:13:56,380 human frailties yeah like you've 333 00:14:00,690 --> 00:13:58,209 probably seen the video where there's a 334 00:14:03,780 --> 00:14:00,700 bunch of people playing the game of 335 00:14:05,970 --> 00:14:03,790 american football basketball us and you 336 00:14:07,740 --> 00:14:05,980 gotta count the number of albums a ball 337 00:14:09,329 --> 00:14:07,750 go yeah and you're busy concentrating on 338 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:09,339 how many times as a ball is bounced by 339 00:14:12,090 --> 00:14:11,050 the White team yeah because I trading on 340 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:12,100 what the people and why they're doing 341 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:15,970 and then this black guerilla walks into 342 00:14:18,990 --> 00:14:17,050 the middle like a human in a black 343 00:14:20,970 --> 00:14:19,000 gorilla suit walks through stops face of 344 00:14:22,050 --> 00:14:20,980 the camera bends down bangs himself or 345 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:22,060 herself on the chest and then 346 00:14:25,410 --> 00:14:23,890 straightens up and walks off what's and 347 00:14:27,660 --> 00:14:25,420 half the audience don't see that it 348 00:14:29,010 --> 00:14:27,670 called attention blindness or some 349 00:14:30,660 --> 00:14:29,020 phrase like that way you're so focused 350 00:14:33,210 --> 00:14:30,670 on one thing something else can happen 351 00:14:34,650 --> 00:14:33,220 which is completely not registered on 352 00:14:36,269 --> 00:14:34,660 and that's symptomatic of the fact that 353 00:14:39,900 --> 00:14:36,279 all you see in reality the whole world 354 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:39,910 is and I use the word see literally in 355 00:14:44,460 --> 00:14:42,490 the vision sense all you see is an area 356 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:44,470 the size of your thumbnail when you hold 357 00:14:47,370 --> 00:14:45,850 your arm out so if you get your arm and 358 00:14:49,319 --> 00:14:47,380 hold it all the way out and you look at 359 00:14:52,350 --> 00:14:49,329 your thumb about mostly best part of a 360 00:14:53,850 --> 00:14:52,360 meter away from you that size of the 361 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:53,860 thumbnail is all you see in focus 362 00:14:56,940 --> 00:14:55,570 everything else well you walk in the 363 00:14:59,100 --> 00:14:56,950 room and you your eyes went flicker 364 00:15:01,330 --> 00:14:59,110 flicker flicker Oh cars got pink pipes 365 00:15:03,250 --> 00:15:01,340 in a bright orange office with 366 00:15:05,140 --> 00:15:03,260 basically I saw the cardboard cutouts 367 00:15:07,450 --> 00:15:05,150 behind you that's yeah hang on don't 368 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:07,460 speak just ate a mate she's hot and so 369 00:15:11,740 --> 00:15:09,290 then you flick around and then you build 370 00:15:14,740 --> 00:15:11,750 up this virtual reality yeah all you see 371 00:15:17,290 --> 00:15:14,750 in focus at any given moment sharp 3d 372 00:15:18,970 --> 00:15:17,300 focus is an area the size of your thumb 373 00:15:20,710 --> 00:15:18,980 touches all you really have to write but 374 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:20,720 there you can't your brain cannot handle 375 00:15:26,380 --> 00:15:24,290 anymore no no data there is so huge that 376 00:15:27,790 --> 00:15:26,390 your brain has to simplify it out and 377 00:15:29,980 --> 00:15:27,800 then just to alert you to the fact that 378 00:15:32,260 --> 00:15:29,990 there might be a killer carrot or rabbit 379 00:15:33,910 --> 00:15:32,270 on the side you've got motion to take 380 00:15:36,070 --> 00:15:33,920 divvy up there you see I something's 381 00:15:38,140 --> 00:15:36,080 clicking right field or left field all 382 00:15:39,310 --> 00:15:38,150 swivel over and look at and suddenly 383 00:15:42,190 --> 00:15:39,320 that's where you bring your thumbnail of 384 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:42,200 attention to yeah so the other factor 385 00:15:47,500 --> 00:15:44,930 involved in why we go for conspiracy 386 00:15:50,910 --> 00:15:47,510 theories is that not only is our vision 387 00:15:52,930 --> 00:15:50,920 so complex the brain has to do massive 388 00:15:54,190 --> 00:15:52,940 simplifications the whole universe is 389 00:15:56,770 --> 00:15:54,200 complicated and we've got to simplify 390 00:15:59,890 --> 00:15:56,780 everything down and so with regard to 391 00:16:01,720 --> 00:15:59,900 visual illusions I like Carl Tyson 392 00:16:04,990 --> 00:16:01,730 degrassi or degrassi Tyson which one is 393 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:05,000 video Neil like a university guess what 394 00:16:08,350 --> 00:16:06,770 I got one out of three right I can 395 00:16:09,970 --> 00:16:08,360 understand why you mixed up Carl me 396 00:16:12,690 --> 00:16:09,980 because he was a student in Carl seguir 397 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:12,700 ok so he said you shouldn't call them 398 00:16:18,850 --> 00:16:15,290 optical illusions but brain failures and 399 00:16:22,300 --> 00:16:18,860 they are so the basic concept is that 400 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:22,310 the universe is hideously complex and we 401 00:16:25,510 --> 00:16:24,050 just try to make up theories to 402 00:16:28,060 --> 00:16:25,520 understand what's going on and we got 403 00:16:29,740 --> 00:16:28,070 the media and the advertisers and the 404 00:16:33,330 --> 00:16:29,750 people with the vested interest telling 405 00:16:36,580 --> 00:16:33,340 lies to us lateral times and so you know 406 00:16:39,190 --> 00:16:36,590 rather than saying look I know you like 407 00:16:41,710 --> 00:16:39,200 sweet drinks here's a sweet drink drink 408 00:16:43,390 --> 00:16:41,720 coconut water they say oh coconut water 409 00:16:45,580 --> 00:16:43,400 will cure sunstroke civiles varicose 410 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:45,590 veins and cancer and will make your 411 00:16:49,690 --> 00:16:47,450 handwriting better ignore the fact that 412 00:16:52,090 --> 00:16:49,700 as a sweet drink oh okay I'll buy a 413 00:16:54,730 --> 00:16:52,100 cubic meter of coconut water also these 414 00:16:56,650 --> 00:16:54,740 things like the superfood it's it's so 415 00:16:58,450 --> 00:16:56,660 seductive isn't it eat this it's a 416 00:17:00,730 --> 00:16:58,460 superfood by the word server should be 417 00:17:03,620 --> 00:17:00,740 only used in super man's super 418 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:03,630 conductivity maybe 419 00:17:08,360 --> 00:17:05,610 the phosphate and superannuation and 420 00:17:10,610 --> 00:17:08,370 that's about it oh I actually went 421 00:17:12,970 --> 00:17:10,620 reading through why chia seeds of super 422 00:17:15,530 --> 00:17:12,980 fit you in purchases is so two years ago 423 00:17:17,420 --> 00:17:15,540 you know what there are so many things 424 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:17,430 that come and go that I can't cry as if 425 00:17:22,220 --> 00:17:19,770 everything cimarex the latest one oh 426 00:17:25,309 --> 00:17:22,230 really give me a break so with the chia 427 00:17:26,900 --> 00:17:25,319 seeds when they came out I went reading 428 00:17:30,340 --> 00:17:26,910 through what they had in them and 429 00:17:33,530 --> 00:17:30,350 they're fairly high in omega-3s which 430 00:17:36,350 --> 00:17:33,540 part of a well-balanced diet but to get 431 00:17:38,150 --> 00:17:36,360 what you need for your daily intake of 432 00:17:40,250 --> 00:17:38,160 the various things that they thought 433 00:17:43,460 --> 00:17:40,260 were very good in it you'd have to eat a 434 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:43,470 hundred grams of these seeds a day now I 435 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:45,570 have cheer seizures for phone co likely 436 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:46,890 tasting i love the way that when you 437 00:17:51,650 --> 00:17:48,930 sprinkle water or yogurt on and they 438 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:51,660 smell they swell by 17 times in volume 439 00:17:55,730 --> 00:17:53,850 and he give this nice gelatinous clearly 440 00:17:57,470 --> 00:17:55,740 and they go between your teeth and then 441 00:18:00,500 --> 00:17:57,480 after you've had them for breakfast so I 442 00:18:02,120 --> 00:18:00,510 cut up fruit and then various nuts and I 443 00:18:03,710 --> 00:18:02,130 have them and then they're between my 444 00:18:06,770 --> 00:18:03,720 teeth annoying the heck out of me and 445 00:18:09,110 --> 00:18:06,780 then it says okay calm use your dental 446 00:18:10,580 --> 00:18:09,120 floss remember and then up for students 447 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:10,590 my dental floss right and I love him for 448 00:18:15,230 --> 00:18:12,690 that but to think that they will cure 449 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:15,240 cancer so sorry it's a complete life but 450 00:18:18,410 --> 00:18:16,530 yeah they just sort of part of a 451 00:18:20,690 --> 00:18:18,420 balanced diet and your drift in and out 452 00:18:23,420 --> 00:18:20,700 of here and this the whole superfood 453 00:18:25,190 --> 00:18:23,430 seeing is crazy i can tell you what the 454 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:25,200 next one is going to be yeah i bet you a 455 00:18:32,030 --> 00:18:28,170 dollar i'm right on this one hmm cashews 456 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:32,040 cashews no cashew juice cashew juice now 457 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:33,930 you know the cashew nut yeah it's a nice 458 00:18:39,140 --> 00:18:35,730 nutters got fats them you need a lot of 459 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:39,150 cash used to make cashew jism ah so what 460 00:18:42,890 --> 00:18:40,650 happens is i read about this in the new 461 00:18:44,950 --> 00:18:42,900 york times a while ago so by the way i 462 00:18:48,290 --> 00:18:44,960 recommend people read this for fun it's 463 00:18:50,540 --> 00:18:48,300 tennis shoes 10 articles free a month or 464 00:18:52,580 --> 00:18:50,550 you put pay 15 bucks and it's all you 465 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:52,590 can eat and they'll talk about how the 466 00:18:59,480 --> 00:18:57,810 various hora column fairy dust drink 467 00:19:01,400 --> 00:18:59,490 manufacturers so I've done geeks with 468 00:19:03,230 --> 00:19:01,410 these people you have the big soft drink 469 00:19:04,970 --> 00:19:03,240 people and they live among themselves 470 00:19:06,740 --> 00:19:04,980 right we just get water and we put a bit 471 00:19:09,590 --> 00:19:06,750 of fairy dust in me in the public fall 472 00:19:12,890 --> 00:19:09,600 for us bloody idiots so the fairy dust 473 00:19:15,450 --> 00:19:12,900 drink manufacturers right they either 474 00:19:18,019 --> 00:19:15,460 big ones have been buying up 475 00:19:20,909 --> 00:19:18,029 the cashew apples around the world so 476 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:20,919 think of a plumber smallish plum so you 477 00:19:24,899 --> 00:19:22,330 can't do this thing that the size of a 478 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:24,909 smallest plum and you rip out the cashew 479 00:19:29,789 --> 00:19:27,610 nut yes you didn't throw the rest of it 480 00:19:31,470 --> 00:19:29,799 away yeah and so what they're doing is 481 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:31,480 buying up the rights for all of these 482 00:19:35,700 --> 00:19:34,330 cashew apples the witch squishy thing 483 00:19:39,149 --> 00:19:35,710 around the cashew nut that you eat is 484 00:19:41,970 --> 00:19:39,159 called the cashew apple and so the drink 485 00:19:43,289 --> 00:19:41,980 people are buying it up and in about six 486 00:19:45,450 --> 00:19:43,299 months to a year you're going to find 487 00:19:47,970 --> 00:19:45,460 that cash you juice causes cures 488 00:19:50,159 --> 00:19:47,980 everything it probably probably has 489 00:19:51,779 --> 00:19:50,169 already the next one so I'm being a 490 00:19:52,980 --> 00:19:51,789 dollar that it'll be the next super 491 00:19:55,950 --> 00:19:52,990 drink that'll come out and people or 492 00:19:57,330 --> 00:19:55,960 fall for it and in dubs you then will be 493 00:19:58,710 --> 00:19:57,340 involved with the market pyramid selling 494 00:20:00,899 --> 00:19:58,720 all the first oh you're getting back to 495 00:20:02,490 --> 00:20:00,909 your statement about the complexity of 496 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:02,500 the universe it is complex and that's 497 00:20:07,620 --> 00:20:04,210 why I have to simplify the complexity of 498 00:20:09,990 --> 00:20:07,630 our modern society is far beyond what we 499 00:20:12,419 --> 00:20:10,000 evolved to do which is living on the 500 00:20:13,799 --> 00:20:12,429 plains and having babies having babe and 501 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:13,809 in making it up babies for the next 502 00:20:17,460 --> 00:20:15,730 generation and that was it because I 503 00:20:20,580 --> 00:20:17,470 live after you 25 consider yourself 504 00:20:23,010 --> 00:20:20,590 lucky yeah yeah so this whole society we 505 00:20:25,110 --> 00:20:23,020 live in and it's increasingly so is far 506 00:20:27,180 --> 00:20:25,120 more complex than than we've been set up 507 00:20:29,820 --> 00:20:27,190 to deal with in a way sure and our 508 00:20:31,470 --> 00:20:29,830 brains are evolving if you read my 36th 509 00:20:35,610 --> 00:20:31,480 book house of cars it talks about the 510 00:20:38,039 --> 00:20:35,620 Flynn effect where brains with IQ is 511 00:20:40,710 --> 00:20:38,049 increasing by nine IQ points every 512 00:20:42,090 --> 00:20:40,720 generation and this is by John Flynn 513 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:42,100 who's currently at the University of 514 00:20:47,490 --> 00:20:46,330 Otago and his seminal paper on us he 515 00:20:48,899 --> 00:20:47,500 wasn't the only one of few other people 516 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:48,909 sort of hinted that but he was the first 517 00:20:55,460 --> 00:20:52,330 one to hit a big time he got hold of IQ 518 00:20:58,350 --> 00:20:55,470 records for the United States military 519 00:21:01,409 --> 00:20:58,360 everybody who invented who entered the 520 00:21:04,529 --> 00:21:01,419 United States military from 1932 on had 521 00:21:07,919 --> 00:21:04,539 to do an IQ test and what they found was 522 00:21:10,860 --> 00:21:07,929 the IQ test had to be increasingly made 523 00:21:13,710 --> 00:21:10,870 more difficult because what you do is 524 00:21:16,409 --> 00:21:13,720 you give her an IQ test two I don't 525 00:21:18,060 --> 00:21:16,419 2,000 people or 10,000 people and you're 526 00:21:21,269 --> 00:21:18,070 having their tests of knowledge what's 527 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:21,279 the capital of Mexico and word associate 528 00:21:27,660 --> 00:21:22,690 word link 529 00:21:33,210 --> 00:21:27,670 Wisty test if sandwich is two foot lace 530 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:33,220 so candolyn is to bovine and then yeah 531 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:35,050 matrices and we go what is this 532 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:37,450 expanding series a whole bunch of things 533 00:21:41,970 --> 00:21:40,090 and it's not perfect but it's a good 534 00:21:44,250 --> 00:21:41,980 first approximation and what you do is 535 00:21:46,980 --> 00:21:44,260 you send up so that the average of your 536 00:21:49,140 --> 00:21:46,990 entire population is a hundred so it was 537 00:21:50,670 --> 00:21:49,150 every IQ test every new version that 538 00:21:52,770 --> 00:21:50,680 comes out so i'll pick on one called the 539 00:21:56,010 --> 00:21:52,780 whisk WIC the wechsler intelligence 540 00:21:58,770 --> 00:21:56,020 scale of a at les's and it has been 541 00:22:01,050 --> 00:21:58,780 through whisk and whisk one two three 542 00:22:03,030 --> 00:22:01,060 four whatever and the average is a 543 00:22:06,150 --> 00:22:03,040 hundred and you've got two thirds of the 544 00:22:09,870 --> 00:22:06,160 population between 8515 and I'm in there 545 00:22:11,070 --> 00:22:09,880 I'm at 110 so my IQ is just barely above 546 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:11,080 average I'm in there with the great 547 00:22:14,430 --> 00:22:12,730 unwashed at sixty-six percent of 548 00:22:16,650 --> 00:22:14,440 population and by the way just a little 549 00:22:19,650 --> 00:22:16,660 diversion here if anybody tells you 550 00:22:21,210 --> 00:22:19,660 there are Q is 160 Barse is a lie I've 551 00:22:23,250 --> 00:22:21,220 come across a few of them and I don't 552 00:22:24,780 --> 00:22:23,260 know why they love the number 160 but 553 00:22:26,910 --> 00:22:24,790 when you follow it through you finally 554 00:22:29,010 --> 00:22:26,920 just made the number up but anyway 555 00:22:31,050 --> 00:22:29,020 getting back to the IQ test yes and so 556 00:22:32,670 --> 00:22:31,060 they've had to be scaled up words by 557 00:22:34,890 --> 00:22:32,680 nine IQ points every city every 558 00:22:37,710 --> 00:22:34,900 generation it's a lot and it's not just 559 00:22:39,030 --> 00:22:37,720 in America it's in all of the developed 560 00:22:42,090 --> 00:22:39,040 countries of the world this is it a 561 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:42,100 wealthy enough to afford giving out Q 562 00:22:47,730 --> 00:22:45,250 tests to a whole bunch put the pillows 563 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:47,740 pacifica society we can't be evolved in 564 00:22:53,490 --> 00:22:50,890 that right we don't know well i'm using 565 00:22:57,390 --> 00:22:53,500 here as my role model wider definition 566 00:23:01,110 --> 00:22:57,400 of the word Ebola we will evolve 567 00:23:03,150 --> 00:23:01,120 epigenetics I i use Arnold 568 00:23:07,590 --> 00:23:03,160 Schwarzenegger as my role model for 569 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:07,600 advice in things regarding renewable 570 00:23:14,580 --> 00:23:11,290 energy and hard work and he did not 571 00:23:17,670 --> 00:23:14,590 build up his muscles by lying on the 572 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:17,680 lounge watching TV drinking beer and 573 00:23:22,230 --> 00:23:20,290 theeeen I really I really want some 574 00:23:23,460 --> 00:23:22,240 muscles I'll bring more beer no he 575 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:23,470 actually went out and he worked at a 576 00:23:27,030 --> 00:23:24,610 regardless of what else he'd be 577 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:27,040 certainly didn't work at it and what was 578 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:29,410 wonderful about Arnold was that he was 579 00:23:35,250 --> 00:23:33,250 the first poor person who had symmetry 580 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:35,260 so you'll notice that many actors 581 00:23:40,170 --> 00:23:38,410 our short so Tom Cruise for example 582 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:40,180 beautiful symmetry you thought it was 583 00:23:44,970 --> 00:23:43,210 hard to get a big person now to be 584 00:23:47,550 --> 00:23:44,980 symmetrical so you look at his ab dose 585 00:23:49,230 --> 00:23:47,560 from the early days and he's got the six 586 00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:49,240 tendinous intersections and they dead 587 00:23:52,740 --> 00:23:51,370 square and he was symmetrical from one 588 00:23:54,180 --> 00:23:52,750 side the body to the other and he was 589 00:23:55,710 --> 00:23:54,190 the first tall person to be able to do 590 00:23:58,560 --> 00:23:55,720 that and if you've seen his movie 591 00:24:00,660 --> 00:23:58,570 pumping iron I have it at home I was 592 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:00,670 great yeah so that's why I know he works 593 00:24:04,380 --> 00:24:02,890 out getting so there's an opening shot 594 00:24:07,290 --> 00:24:04,390 and the camera comes past these 595 00:24:10,470 --> 00:24:07,300 diminutive ladies ballerinas at a ballet 596 00:24:13,470 --> 00:24:10,480 bar and a sort of lady lady lady cameras 597 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:13,480 patty log pad pad pad pad Arnold 598 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:16,690 something is this guy his leg is equal 599 00:24:20,610 --> 00:24:18,850 to their mass right though they must 600 00:24:23,820 --> 00:24:20,620 wait 40 kilograms he's probably 120 601 00:24:25,830 --> 00:24:23,830 right at least he's just huge and he's 602 00:24:27,630 --> 00:24:25,840 working at the ballet bar on top of his 603 00:24:30,300 --> 00:24:27,640 muscle work to try and get himself 604 00:24:33,570 --> 00:24:30,310 symmetrical too square and so in the 605 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:33,580 same way your muscles get bigger if you 606 00:24:39,510 --> 00:24:36,610 work at them so do I think does the 607 00:24:41,970 --> 00:24:39,520 brain and our society is providing the 608 00:24:43,860 --> 00:24:41,980 impetus so you don't pass that on to the 609 00:24:46,590 --> 00:24:43,870 next generation the society still 610 00:24:48,330 --> 00:24:46,600 connected oh well firstly you can why we 611 00:24:50,700 --> 00:24:48,340 already can via epigenetics you know the 612 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:50,710 Dutch hunger winter remote that will 613 00:24:55,620 --> 00:24:53,170 come back there but the Society of sub 614 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:55,630 is continually changing and so to chain 615 00:24:59,160 --> 00:24:57,610 know the answer is we don't know but 616 00:25:00,930 --> 00:24:59,170 here's two possible things number one 617 00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:00,940 back in the year nineteen hundred only 618 00:25:06,210 --> 00:25:03,130 three percent of people had jobs where 619 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:06,220 they sat down and thought hmm and then 620 00:25:09,030 --> 00:25:07,450 they told the other ninety seven percent 621 00:25:12,990 --> 00:25:09,040 you go over there pick a little Vincent 622 00:25:14,670 --> 00:25:13,000 cameras nowadays 35% number two the 623 00:25:17,010 --> 00:25:14,680 world has become more abstract you go to 624 00:25:19,380 --> 00:25:17,020 a kid of 1900 you say hey kid if 1900 625 00:25:21,750 --> 00:25:19,390 cat dog tell me what's happening with a 626 00:25:24,300 --> 00:25:21,760 cat and a dog and the kiddo go the dog 627 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:24,310 chases the cat today the kid will say 628 00:25:28,620 --> 00:25:26,170 well obviously they're both mammals yes 629 00:25:33,150 --> 00:25:28,630 so this is Zoe and the other factor is 630 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:33,160 the epigenetic so where changes can be 631 00:25:37,830 --> 00:25:34,930 passed from generation to generation 632 00:25:39,870 --> 00:25:37,840 which almost sounds like Y Cinco ism so 633 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:39,880 the DNA doesn't change but the way that 634 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:40,690 it is red 635 00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:42,690 and this was seen in the various 636 00:25:47,310 --> 00:25:45,370 Scandinavian hunger winters but more 637 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:47,320 recently the Dutch hunger winter there's 638 00:25:51,660 --> 00:25:49,810 a movie called a bridge too far about 639 00:25:53,310 --> 00:25:51,670 the Second World War we're trying to get 640 00:25:56,070 --> 00:25:53,320 to a bridge in Arnhem as in Arnhem Land 641 00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:56,080 but in this case in Holland Holland so 642 00:26:00,750 --> 00:25:58,330 the Second World War the tide has turned 643 00:26:01,980 --> 00:26:00,760 against the Nazis the Allies have hit 644 00:26:03,510 --> 00:26:01,990 the mainland of Europe they're heading 645 00:26:04,590 --> 00:26:03,520 for this bridge in Holland they're 646 00:26:06,630 --> 00:26:04,600 trying to get there before we do they 647 00:26:07,980 --> 00:26:06,640 don't get there but to help them the 648 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:07,990 Dutch rise up against the nazi 649 00:26:12,810 --> 00:26:11,050 oppressors the Allies don't get there 650 00:26:16,470 --> 00:26:12,820 everybody stuck for winter it's an in 651 00:26:19,290 --> 00:26:16,480 commonly savage winter and then the the 652 00:26:21,210 --> 00:26:19,300 Nazis punish the Dutch by starving them 653 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:21,220 and many people die and as you would 654 00:26:24,900 --> 00:26:23,050 expect in addition to people dying the 655 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:24,910 old and the frail died the young and the 656 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:27,490 frail die and women who are pregnant if 657 00:26:31,500 --> 00:26:29,770 they can survive give birth the smaller 658 00:26:33,060 --> 00:26:31,510 babies there's no surprise it's terrible 659 00:26:34,950 --> 00:26:33,070 there's no surprise what is surprising 660 00:26:37,590 --> 00:26:34,960 is when those babies grew up as women 661 00:26:39,540 --> 00:26:37,600 and had babies they had smaller babies 662 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:39,550 and it continued to the next generation 663 00:26:45,180 --> 00:26:42,730 and this is called epigenetics so think 664 00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:45,190 of the DNA and there are hundreds of 665 00:26:47,970 --> 00:26:46,480 ways to think of it but in this is 666 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:47,980 simplify thinking of the DNA as a 667 00:26:53,790 --> 00:26:52,210 blueprint and you choose to read this 668 00:26:56,070 --> 00:26:53,800 part of the blueprint differently so the 669 00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:56,080 blueprint is still there and it's called 670 00:27:00,540 --> 00:26:58,330 epigenetics and one form of epigenetics 671 00:27:03,660 --> 00:27:00,550 ebi means around genetics is genetics is 672 00:27:05,820 --> 00:27:03,670 that you put methyl groups on two parts 673 00:27:09,420 --> 00:27:05,830 of the DNA and that affects how they're 674 00:27:12,450 --> 00:27:09,430 red and so it might be that in your case 675 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:12,460 at a certain stage the volume knob for 676 00:27:18,270 --> 00:27:14,770 producing growth hormone was turned on 677 00:27:21,540 --> 00:27:18,280 and yet for these babies they've still 678 00:27:24,630 --> 00:27:21,550 got the part of the brain that makes 679 00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:24,640 growth hormone but the volume knob was 680 00:27:28,980 --> 00:27:27,130 turned out so there was a methyl group 681 00:27:31,530 --> 00:27:28,990 stuck on to the bit of the DNA saying 682 00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:31,540 from the mother but this is a bad time 683 00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:34,480 to grow babies I'm going to make you 684 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:36,130 small as well and you make your children 685 00:27:40,050 --> 00:27:37,210 small and after a couple of generations 686 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:40,060 you'll revert to the mean so there is a 687 00:27:44,820 --> 00:27:41,890 sort of life singer 688 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:44,830 the reason that license is another 689 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:48,250 diversion here this inheritance of 690 00:27:53,100 --> 00:27:51,730 acquired characteristics it was poo 691 00:27:54,870 --> 00:27:53,110 pooed and laughed at you know because I 692 00:27:57,210 --> 00:27:54,880 said oh what the giraffe got call 693 00:27:58,680 --> 00:27:57,220 because he kept on stretching it yes I 694 00:28:01,980 --> 00:27:58,690 kept on reading of the Torah leads and 695 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:01,990 it was especially loved by the Soviet 696 00:28:05,550 --> 00:28:03,970 Union and this actually led to massive 697 00:28:09,090 --> 00:28:05,560 crop failures because I was just wrong 698 00:28:12,660 --> 00:28:09,100 and I Cinco was loved be by Starlin 699 00:28:15,930 --> 00:28:12,670 because what he was saying was if we can 700 00:28:17,910 --> 00:28:15,940 apply changes to the populace we will 701 00:28:19,620 --> 00:28:17,920 then get them giving birth to better 702 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:19,630 babies and we will overcome the evil 703 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:21,850 decadent West the inheritance of 704 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:25,690 acquired characteristics so it does turn 705 00:28:30,930 --> 00:28:28,210 out that you can get that happening and 706 00:28:33,570 --> 00:28:30,940 so now you need to a week to grieve via 707 00:28:38,250 --> 00:28:33,580 this epigenetic phenomena an overweight 708 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:38,260 father can give birth to cookin father a 709 00:28:43,530 --> 00:28:39,850 child would be more likely to be 710 00:28:47,670 --> 00:28:43,540 overweight a woman who grows up entirely 711 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:47,680 in a very smoky atmosphere and the day 712 00:28:52,950 --> 00:28:50,770 before the baby is born moves to 713 00:28:55,380 --> 00:28:52,960 beautifully clean air she's moving from 714 00:28:58,650 --> 00:28:55,390 an area with high asthma too low asthma 715 00:29:00,750 --> 00:28:58,660 but her baby carries the risk of high 716 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:00,760 asthma it is born as though it is still 717 00:29:04,290 --> 00:29:03,130 and when it's born it has asthma the 718 00:29:05,430 --> 00:29:04,300 Raiders olds living in a dirty 719 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:05,440 environment even though I was living in 720 00:29:09,450 --> 00:29:07,690 a clean environment so the dirty air 721 00:29:12,510 --> 00:29:09,460 that comes into the lungs of the mother 722 00:29:16,770 --> 00:29:12,520 somehow then goes through the umbilical 723 00:29:18,450 --> 00:29:16,780 cord onto the baby's DNA and then adds 724 00:29:20,670 --> 00:29:18,460 we thought because we're not talking 725 00:29:22,110 --> 00:29:20,680 about epigenetics being involved with 726 00:29:23,460 --> 00:29:22,120 methyl groups will discover that there's 727 00:29:25,860 --> 00:29:23,470 more than just my soul groups I'll be 728 00:29:28,020 --> 00:29:25,870 bloody everything but at least in a 729 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:28,030 simple form they change it changes how 730 00:29:31,860 --> 00:29:30,010 the baby's DNA is red so it's more 731 00:29:33,420 --> 00:29:31,870 likely to have asthma doing in fact that 732 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:33,430 in mind that there is no such diseases 733 00:29:37,020 --> 00:29:35,170 of asthma is a symptom on disease but 734 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:37,030 that's too complicated we're talking 735 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:38,530 then about conspiracy theory well yeah 736 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:40,090 right so the world is complicated and 737 00:29:44,460 --> 00:29:41,770 we'll just go to do an example here 738 00:29:47,250 --> 00:29:44,470 about how our own brains to simplify 739 00:29:48,930 --> 00:29:47,260 things create conspiracies hmmm so this 740 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:48,940 is the godfather thing in America 741 00:29:52,950 --> 00:29:50,410 there's a piece of chain called The 742 00:29:54,340 --> 00:29:52,960 Godfather been around for a while it's a 743 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:54,350 chain it sells Pete 744 00:30:00,500 --> 00:29:56,730 you're like pieces from a chain their 745 00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:00,510 pizza from a chain and in two thousand 746 00:30:07,730 --> 00:30:05,760 eleven and twelve the guy Kane CA I am 747 00:30:10,010 --> 00:30:07,740 NOT McCain McCain Matthew Kane somebody 748 00:30:14,810 --> 00:30:10,020 came he decided he would run for the 749 00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:14,820 Republican nominee for being put forward 750 00:30:17,690 --> 00:30:16,110 by the Republicans as their candidate 751 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:17,700 for being a president and he sort of 752 00:30:23,330 --> 00:30:20,130 blossomed for a while then fade away and 753 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:23,340 it turned out that came to the public no 754 00:30:28,430 --> 00:30:26,730 knowledge that 15 years earlier one and 755 00:30:31,310 --> 00:30:28,440 a half decades earlier he had been the 756 00:30:33,170 --> 00:30:31,320 CEO of Godfather pizzas then there so 757 00:30:34,790 --> 00:30:33,180 they kind of a survey and it was found 758 00:30:37,220 --> 00:30:34,800 that if you were a Republican you 759 00:30:39,410 --> 00:30:37,230 thought that by day god dammit these 760 00:30:40,940 --> 00:30:39,420 Godfather pieces taste better than ever 761 00:30:43,910 --> 00:30:40,950 if you were Democrat you thought they 762 00:30:46,250 --> 00:30:43,920 were worse obviously go the same they 763 00:30:47,870 --> 00:30:46,260 didn't sort of pick out the encoding 764 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:47,880 demographic of each person and throw 765 00:30:52,010 --> 00:30:49,170 anchovies into one and mud into the 766 00:30:54,260 --> 00:30:52,020 other so just shows you how something as 767 00:30:56,270 --> 00:30:54,270 simple as a political thing chair 768 00:30:58,100 --> 00:30:56,280 political alliance change debut believe 769 00:31:00,140 --> 00:30:58,110 so a random person comes in through the 770 00:31:02,810 --> 00:31:00,150 door and suppose you've got on their 771 00:31:05,210 --> 00:31:02,820 chest a little badge saying young Labour 772 00:31:07,730 --> 00:31:05,220 Party young green party young liberal 773 00:31:10,370 --> 00:31:07,740 party it will affect how you deal with 774 00:31:13,460 --> 00:31:10,380 them and it shouldn't it shouldn't it 775 00:31:15,740 --> 00:31:13,470 surely does well it's up to us to over 776 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:15,750 be home right now and come over come out 777 00:31:19,220 --> 00:31:17,730 well we'll take a short break calm we'll 778 00:31:21,230 --> 00:31:19,230 come back we'll wrap up with some ideas 779 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:21,240 that we might have about how people can 780 00:31:43,410 --> 00:31:40,260 the skeptic magazine the journal from 781 00:31:45,630 --> 00:31:43,420 Australian skeptics subscribe online to 782 00:31:50,910 --> 00:31:45,640 the world's second oldest skeptical 783 00:31:53,670 --> 00:31:50,920 magazine visit w WC apx com au and click 784 00:31:57,500 --> 00:31:53,680 the publication's League you can also 785 00:32:00,960 --> 00:31:57,510 find their over 30 years of back issues 786 00:32:12,180 --> 00:32:00,970 free to download the skeptic magazine 787 00:32:13,740 --> 00:32:12,190 from Australian skeptics did you see 788 00:32:15,930 --> 00:32:13,750 that UFO sighting that made the news 789 00:32:18,210 --> 00:32:15,940 what did that latest study about 790 00:32:19,830 --> 00:32:18,220 alternative treatments really say is 791 00:32:22,770 --> 00:32:19,840 this photo making the rounds real or 792 00:32:24,660 --> 00:32:22,780 hoax duffle news is a unique website 793 00:32:26,790 --> 00:32:24,670 featuring news about pseudoscience the 794 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:26,800 paranormal anomalies and questionable 795 00:32:31,470 --> 00:32:28,530 claims framed with the 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facebook twitter and 810 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:35,750 and so we're back here with dr. khalid 811 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:37,290 taking a nice little break here at the 812 00:33:40,790 --> 00:33:39,090 sydney university just before christmas 813 00:33:43,430 --> 00:33:40,800 time Carl we're talking about how 814 00:33:46,220 --> 00:33:43,440 complex society is in the universe in 815 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:46,230 general we just happen to be a poor saps 816 00:33:52,220 --> 00:33:48,570 caught up along with the flow of things 817 00:33:55,220 --> 00:33:52,230 and we're looking at ways than in which 818 00:33:58,490 --> 00:33:55,230 we can arm ourselves prepare ourselves 819 00:34:00,350 --> 00:33:58,500 and which brings me naturally onto 820 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:00,360 skepticism and why people are skeptical 821 00:34:05,390 --> 00:34:02,370 and how that helps what's your take on 822 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:05,400 them well basically I'm not very deep 823 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:07,170 I'm fairly good at recognizing people 824 00:34:14,180 --> 00:34:09,450 who are so let me give you one quote 825 00:34:17,390 --> 00:34:14,190 from Alexander Pope who this guy from 826 00:34:19,940 --> 00:34:17,400 the past you know Phil's rush in where 827 00:34:22,250 --> 00:34:19,950 angels fear true yeah that's right so 828 00:34:25,010 --> 00:34:22,260 that's him he said a little learning is 829 00:34:28,340 --> 00:34:25,020 a dangerous thing he was a guy and he 830 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:28,350 said drink deep and then he gives 831 00:34:32,060 --> 00:34:30,570 alternative or taste not either one of 832 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:32,070 the other either drink deeply or don't 833 00:34:36,650 --> 00:34:34,770 even go in there the perience spring 834 00:34:38,750 --> 00:34:36,660 that was a spring in Greece Macedonia 835 00:34:40,250 --> 00:34:38,760 where you would drink of it and you 836 00:34:42,410 --> 00:34:40,260 would get knowledge knowledge even if it 837 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:42,420 be not Granger it's a drink not yeah 838 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:45,090 drink deep or taste not yeah the period 839 00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:47,330 spring the puter stream because they're 840 00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:50,730 shallow drafts intoxicate the brain so 841 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:53,040 if you just sort of get a little tiny 842 00:34:59,480 --> 00:34:54,810 fact a little intoxicated brain like for 843 00:35:01,790 --> 00:34:59,490 example the quack of a duck does not 844 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:01,800 echo wow this object clear it's rice 845 00:35:10,010 --> 00:35:05,810 yeah shallow-draft intoxicate the brain 846 00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:10,020 but drinking deeply largely you know 847 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:11,520 this is again yeah so if you drink 848 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:14,490 deeply if you get true knowledge you'll 849 00:35:20,030 --> 00:35:16,530 find the des another case so in fact 850 00:35:22,250 --> 00:35:20,040 with ducks and duck farms all you have 851 00:35:26,810 --> 00:35:22,260 to do is bring up a duck farm and it's a 852 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:26,820 mate do they do they echo and like a yes 853 00:35:31,700 --> 00:35:29,610 they're really annoying and the reason 854 00:35:34,130 --> 00:35:31,710 it is such a funny sentence is that the 855 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:34,140 words duck and quack I've got that it 856 00:35:37,610 --> 00:35:36,570 okay here the letter K it makes you 857 00:35:39,380 --> 00:35:37,620 smart because you're thinking you're 858 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:39,390 mouthing it out yourself and to say that 859 00:35:44,620 --> 00:35:41,970 it a que you have to put your lips wide 860 00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:44,630 and that's what you do when you smile so 861 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:47,250 order they they love comedians love 862 00:35:52,240 --> 00:35:49,890 chucking the K into a word to make you 863 00:35:56,090 --> 00:35:52,250 laugh so that's one the other thing is 864 00:35:58,910 --> 00:35:56,100 there is another way of being skip 865 00:36:00,790 --> 00:35:58,920 avoiding being fooled and has to tidy up 866 00:36:04,910 --> 00:36:00,800 the place so they did a study where they 867 00:36:07,130 --> 00:36:04,920 had a whole bunch of pictures doc 868 00:36:09,470 --> 00:36:07,140 pictures on the screen and some of them 869 00:36:11,300 --> 00:36:09,480 you can see I there's a chair or that's 870 00:36:12,650 --> 00:36:11,310 a roof of a house and some of them were 871 00:36:15,380 --> 00:36:12,660 just crap there was nothing there at all 872 00:36:16,370 --> 00:36:15,390 I was just purely random and now some of 873 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:16,380 them deliberately had information 874 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:18,090 something not and then halfway through 875 00:36:22,190 --> 00:36:20,370 the computer failed which is all planned 876 00:36:24,350 --> 00:36:22,200 and I said I look I'm sorry Richard 877 00:36:25,700 --> 00:36:24,360 Lucas will go to another room and then 878 00:36:28,370 --> 00:36:25,710 you go to another room and there'd be 879 00:36:30,380 --> 00:36:28,380 another computer and the desk that the 880 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:30,390 computer was sitting on was really full 881 00:36:36,110 --> 00:36:32,610 of crap and mess and yesterday's lunch 882 00:36:38,090 --> 00:36:36,120 and either they say oh let's just get 883 00:36:40,790 --> 00:36:38,100 into it and if they said let's just get 884 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:40,800 into it in the images that were purely 885 00:36:45,830 --> 00:36:43,530 random you would see images that were 886 00:36:48,140 --> 00:36:45,840 not there but if they say oh look which 887 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:48,150 you can use a hand this is really help 888 00:36:52,580 --> 00:36:49,410 us clear but they say you clear my desk 889 00:36:54,770 --> 00:36:52,590 and when you created a bit of order then 890 00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:54,780 you wouldn't try to create order by 891 00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:56,730 seeing images that weren't there this is 892 00:37:01,160 --> 00:36:58,170 like fooling with your parrot all your 893 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:01,170 sensor maybe yeah Fotolia is the seeing 894 00:37:06,260 --> 00:37:03,930 of images and randomness making patterns 895 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:06,270 out of right yes so here's one thing if 896 00:37:10,970 --> 00:37:09,210 somebody says to you hey the World Trade 897 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:10,980 Center was brought down by the US 898 00:37:14,420 --> 00:37:12,810 government quickly go and tidy up your 899 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:14,430 room and they say I can ever tell that 900 00:37:19,130 --> 00:37:17,610 to me again with you so if you created 901 00:37:21,410 --> 00:37:19,140 some water you'll is likely to believe 902 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:21,420 crap or try to find all with is not yeah 903 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:25,530 another one is that it's good to be able 904 00:37:31,430 --> 00:37:29,130 to see reality is going back to 905 00:37:34,940 --> 00:37:31,440 Alexander Pope because then you can both 906 00:37:35,770 --> 00:37:34,950 avoid paranoia and build up trust and 907 00:37:38,260 --> 00:37:35,780 then become 908 00:37:40,330 --> 00:37:38,270 part of a society where we all work 909 00:37:42,220 --> 00:37:40,340 together rather than miss trusting each 910 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:42,230 other and by the way you can fool me you 911 00:37:46,180 --> 00:37:43,850 could tell me that your name is really 912 00:37:48,070 --> 00:37:46,190 bright and rather than Richard and I 913 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:48,080 would believe you now the session of 914 00:37:51,970 --> 00:37:50,330 default positions of humans yes and we 915 00:37:53,740 --> 00:37:51,980 believe what we hear you generally 916 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:53,750 speaking that gets us through we have to 917 00:37:57,430 --> 00:37:55,610 use it because we can't doubt everything 918 00:38:00,280 --> 00:37:57,440 and we have to be as a group because 919 00:38:01,810 --> 00:38:00,290 we're so weak so I'm staring at my 920 00:38:04,690 --> 00:38:01,820 fingernails right now and they are the 921 00:38:06,910 --> 00:38:04,700 most pathetic claws yes right my teeth 922 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:06,920 your teeth you could give me a nasty 923 00:38:10,180 --> 00:38:08,810 bite you but you're not like a dog which 924 00:38:13,150 --> 00:38:10,190 could sort of rittman when they can 925 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:13,160 drive your eyes and nowhere near as 926 00:38:18,250 --> 00:38:16,370 sharp as that of an eagle your fin your 927 00:38:19,720 --> 00:38:18,260 your skin is nowhere near as good as a 928 00:38:21,010 --> 00:38:19,730 cow which you can sort of brush up 929 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:21,020 against a barbed wire fence you and I 930 00:38:25,870 --> 00:38:22,490 would start leaking red stuff everywhere 931 00:38:27,700 --> 00:38:25,880 right so we need to have this language 932 00:38:31,060 --> 00:38:27,710 so we can form a group to go with our 933 00:38:33,220 --> 00:38:31,070 brain so there is this evolutionary 934 00:38:34,870 --> 00:38:33,230 pressure that we stick together as a 935 00:38:37,990 --> 00:38:34,880 group because that makes us strong and 936 00:38:39,850 --> 00:38:38,000 we have the psychopathic ones which I 937 00:38:41,140 --> 00:38:39,860 talk about my 32nd book who take 938 00:38:43,090 --> 00:38:41,150 advantage of that but the other always 939 00:38:45,460 --> 00:38:43,100 been around okay no the second thing is 940 00:38:48,190 --> 00:38:45,470 this sentence from Sir Francis Bacon was 941 00:38:49,810 --> 00:38:48,200 this little rhyme if a man shall begin 942 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:49,820 with certainties and he means woman of 943 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:53,090 course he shall Indian doubts but if he 944 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:56,330 will be content to begin with doubts he 945 00:38:58,840 --> 00:38:57,650 shall end in certainty so he started 946 00:39:01,060 --> 00:38:58,850 saying I don't really know what's going 947 00:39:03,610 --> 00:39:01,070 on well but I'm going to go and look at 948 00:39:05,410 --> 00:39:03,620 this thoroughly as opposed to gia says 949 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:05,420 here on the computer screen that the 950 00:39:09,070 --> 00:39:07,370 World Trade building was brought down by 951 00:39:10,930 --> 00:39:09,080 the United States government it must be 952 00:39:12,490 --> 00:39:10,940 true yes therefore I will adjust 953 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:12,500 everything to fit in with their belief 954 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:14,930 right so start with doubt yeah and then 955 00:39:17,830 --> 00:39:16,130 work your way through the traumas that 956 00:39:19,750 --> 00:39:17,840 takes time it takes time yes and wasn't 957 00:39:22,270 --> 00:39:19,760 it and then there's a problem there in 958 00:39:24,250 --> 00:39:22,280 the way in a world where the money is 959 00:39:26,290 --> 00:39:24,260 being concentrated in the hands of the 960 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:26,300 wealthy so the poor buggers are working 961 00:39:30,130 --> 00:39:28,370 lamba as an example I've been reading 962 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:30,140 science fiction books were at the rate 963 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:31,850 of one book every day from when I was 16 964 00:39:35,110 --> 00:39:33,530 to it was about 32 and I had to stop 965 00:39:36,550 --> 00:39:35,120 when I started studying medicine because 966 00:39:39,550 --> 00:39:36,560 the body of knowledge I had to bring my 967 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:39,560 head was so huge but always in the 968 00:39:42,970 --> 00:39:40,970 future there will be robots and 969 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:42,980 computers and we would have all his 970 00:39:48,970 --> 00:39:46,130 leisure time but instead we're working 971 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:48,980 longer when I was a kid you could 972 00:39:56,770 --> 00:39:54,050 run a family on one adults wage and buy 973 00:39:58,510 --> 00:39:56,780 a car buy some land a house and have a 974 00:40:00,070 --> 00:39:58,520 holiday once a year nowadays you're both 975 00:40:02,290 --> 00:40:00,080 parents working they're working not just 976 00:40:05,109 --> 00:40:02,300 40 or 37 half hours a week but much 977 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:05,119 longer and they got toys like thin 978 00:40:09,490 --> 00:40:07,010 screen TVs but the important things like 979 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:09,500 education are much more expensive who 980 00:40:13,599 --> 00:40:11,330 have been conned and there's this shift 981 00:40:15,550 --> 00:40:13,609 of money which I wrote about in my 36th 982 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:15,560 book or thirty fourth book about is 983 00:40:20,410 --> 00:40:18,410 called the one percent and so the 984 00:40:23,740 --> 00:40:20,420 perrito effect and the money going from 985 00:40:26,770 --> 00:40:23,750 the poor to the wealthy and the perrito 986 00:40:28,930 --> 00:40:26,780 was this guy who is a economist and 987 00:40:30,490 --> 00:40:28,940 engineer and sculptor and powered in the 988 00:40:32,170 --> 00:40:30,500 early nineteen hundreds and he did some 989 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:32,180 statistics and he worked out that in 990 00:40:37,390 --> 00:40:34,970 most countries around the world about 991 00:40:39,370 --> 00:40:37,400 twenty percent the population had eighty 992 00:40:42,790 --> 00:40:39,380 percent of the wealth which is a bit 993 00:40:45,940 --> 00:40:42,800 unfair but firstly it didn't matter 994 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:45,950 providing that country had an effective 995 00:40:51,910 --> 00:40:50,090 healthcare system and a just legal 996 00:40:54,340 --> 00:40:51,920 system and a good education system so 997 00:40:56,650 --> 00:40:54,350 that your kids and my kids could both 998 00:40:58,570 --> 00:40:56,660 get access to the important things and 999 00:41:00,250 --> 00:40:58,580 if you killed off that twenty percent 1000 00:41:02,020 --> 00:41:00,260 another twenty percent would rise and 1001 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:02,030 take over what we're looking at now is 1002 00:41:11,190 --> 00:41:05,090 not 2080 but we're looking at 199 and so 1003 00:41:14,890 --> 00:41:11,200 in january twenty last year which was 1004 00:41:17,290 --> 00:41:14,900 2014 Oxfam came out with a figure saying 1005 00:41:18,460 --> 00:41:17,300 that to equal the wealth of the bottom 1006 00:41:20,620 --> 00:41:18,470 half of the world three and a half 1007 00:41:24,670 --> 00:41:20,630 billion people you needed 85 1008 00:41:28,330 --> 00:41:24,680 billionaires hmm by march two months 1009 00:41:30,550 --> 00:41:28,340 later it had dropped a 65 so you needed 1010 00:41:32,830 --> 00:41:30,560 20 roughly 20 fewer billionaires to 1011 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:32,840 equal a wealth so this the money being 1012 00:41:35,410 --> 00:41:34,130 funneled across and people are working 1013 00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:35,420 such long hours they don't have the time 1014 00:41:38,890 --> 00:41:37,609 to think about it so when I go to the 1015 00:41:41,109 --> 00:41:38,900 airport there's this woman called Mary 1016 00:41:42,849 --> 00:41:41,119 who loves to search my bags and make 1017 00:41:44,620 --> 00:41:42,859 jokes me about what new shirts I'm 1018 00:41:46,859 --> 00:41:44,630 carrying with me and what my wife does I 1019 00:41:49,570 --> 00:41:46,869 said but it may happen I never see you 1020 00:41:50,770 --> 00:41:49,580 in the in the mornings I'm only seeing 1021 00:41:54,220 --> 00:41:50,780 you at night and she's all well what 1022 00:41:56,020 --> 00:41:54,230 happens is that I work from midday till 1023 00:41:57,820 --> 00:41:56,030 four o'clock in the afternoon I go home 1024 00:41:59,349 --> 00:41:57,830 and over there in time for the way at 1025 00:42:01,760 --> 00:41:59,359 mistakes and then I admit the kids and 1026 00:42:03,740 --> 00:42:01,770 then I'm with them 1027 00:42:05,870 --> 00:42:03,750 all 7 30 then my husband comes home 1028 00:42:07,940 --> 00:42:05,880 because he's working 10 hour shifts as a 1029 00:42:10,370 --> 00:42:07,950 car mechanic and then I go out and I 1030 00:42:11,930 --> 00:42:10,380 work from eight o'clock at night till 1031 00:42:13,220 --> 00:42:11,940 three o'clock in the morning they'll go 1032 00:42:15,260 --> 00:42:13,230 straight from there to another job at 1033 00:42:20,780 --> 00:42:15,270 the airport so you've got a family of 1034 00:42:23,270 --> 00:42:20,790 two parents working three jobs and not 1035 00:42:24,860 --> 00:42:23,280 able to but they've got a car because 1036 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:24,870 he's a car mechanic they can't buy their 1037 00:42:28,610 --> 00:42:26,010 own property and gotta be way out in the 1038 00:42:30,890 --> 00:42:28,620 sticks and so overwhelmingly we're short 1039 00:42:32,930 --> 00:42:30,900 of time yeah yeah that's all of us yeah 1040 00:42:34,250 --> 00:42:32,940 and that's part of the problem yeah yeah 1041 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:34,260 so much for the robots and computers 1042 00:42:38,180 --> 00:42:36,810 means or it isn't we've got the robots 1043 00:42:40,130 --> 00:42:38,190 in the computers well we've got the 1044 00:42:41,390 --> 00:42:40,140 computers more certain down have the 1045 00:42:44,510 --> 00:42:41,400 leisure time we don't have a leisure 1046 00:42:45,710 --> 00:42:44,520 time why not and how come you're really 1047 00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:45,720 smaller number of people getting what 1048 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:47,520 yet so there's another conspiracy theory 1049 00:42:52,130 --> 00:42:50,490 that I'm done well this this thing about 1050 00:42:55,670 --> 00:42:52,140 drinking deeply the well of knowledge or 1051 00:42:56,780 --> 00:42:55,680 sipping this is absolutely conspiracy if 1052 00:42:59,750 --> 00:42:56,790 there is this what the anti-vaccination 1053 00:43:02,120 --> 00:42:59,760 people do and I guess it just it's one 1054 00:43:05,570 --> 00:43:02,130 that one in such sad about the chicken 1055 00:43:07,940 --> 00:43:05,580 chicken Spock party yeah because I had a 1056 00:43:09,770 --> 00:43:07,950 look at that more deeply and just for my 1057 00:43:14,420 --> 00:43:09,780 own purposes i went into chicken pox so 1058 00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:14,430 firstly chicken pox is not benign one in 1059 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:17,730 every 60,000 kids or one every 60,000 1060 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:19,170 people who gets it will die of it 1061 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:23,130 secondly there's a condition that people 1062 00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:25,170 who are not or have not been trained as 1063 00:43:28,700 --> 00:43:26,640 pediatric doctors would never have heard 1064 00:43:29,990 --> 00:43:28,710 of and I know about because I was 1065 00:43:34,910 --> 00:43:30,000 trained as a pediatric doctor which is 1066 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:34,920 called arterial ischemia syndrome and 1067 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:36,690 what it means is that you got a five 1068 00:43:41,740 --> 00:43:39,090 year old kid having a stroke no not a 1069 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:41,750 sixty-year-old a five year old kid and 1070 00:43:46,700 --> 00:43:44,090 one-third of those who suffer from that 1071 00:43:47,990 --> 00:43:46,710 we've got chicken pox yeah chicken pox 1072 00:43:51,290 --> 00:43:48,000 has that as a side effects which they 1073 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:51,300 didn't know yet the mothers a large 1074 00:43:54,170 --> 00:43:52,650 percentage of the mother's been infected 1075 00:43:55,550 --> 00:43:54,180 with chicken pox between the age of 0 1076 00:43:58,520 --> 00:43:55,560 and six months have kids with all sorts 1077 00:44:02,180 --> 00:43:58,530 of nasty abnormalities and finally long 1078 00:44:05,810 --> 00:44:02,190 term four and five decades from now half 1079 00:44:08,590 --> 00:44:05,820 a century from now one in every five of 1080 00:44:10,540 --> 00:44:08,600 the kids who got chickenpox he's got 1081 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:10,550 shingles yeah and shingles can range 1082 00:44:15,490 --> 00:44:13,130 from 0 that is a bit of a rash on half 1083 00:44:18,610 --> 00:44:15,500 once drop of my body has gone away all 1084 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:18,620 the way to I'm paralyzed in my legs my 1085 00:44:23,140 --> 00:44:21,130 muscles are too weak I'm now got a 1086 00:44:25,990 --> 00:44:23,150 relentless pain for the rest of my life 1087 00:44:30,070 --> 00:44:26,000 and blenders and blinds and like so many 1088 00:44:32,410 --> 00:44:30,080 I brain yeah this orders yeah and yet 1089 00:44:33,970 --> 00:44:32,420 the people who say our chicken pox is 1090 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:33,980 just a childhood disease it goes it 1091 00:44:37,150 --> 00:44:35,930 doesn't affect you again they have not 1092 00:44:39,100 --> 00:44:37,160 got the full information so that gives 1093 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:39,110 back to Alexander Pope yes and then 1094 00:44:42,990 --> 00:44:41,330 drinking deeply here's a well of 1095 00:44:46,780 --> 00:44:43,000 knowledge yes not just superficially 1096 00:44:49,150 --> 00:44:46,790 well it's what we do Carl we we keep 1097 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:49,160 trying to encourage people to drink 1098 00:44:53,410 --> 00:44:51,650 deeply mmm it's not easy not it's 1099 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:53,420 complicated i don't have time and they 1100 00:44:56,830 --> 00:44:54,650 don't have time if they're if they're 1101 00:44:59,080 --> 00:44:56,840 just working flat out to try and pay the 1102 00:45:01,240 --> 00:44:59,090 bills it and then one of their friends 1103 00:45:04,270 --> 00:45:01,250 says don't get your kids vaccinated 1104 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:04,280 because i didn't and then a second 1105 00:45:07,660 --> 00:45:05,570 friend says it and in the third they 1106 00:45:09,610 --> 00:45:07,670 don't have the time to go and dream 1107 00:45:12,370 --> 00:45:09,620 deeply because they're working so hard 1108 00:45:15,330 --> 00:45:12,380 the poor buggers but then again to their 1109 00:45:17,830 --> 00:45:15,340 way of thinking they have they have 1110 00:45:21,430 --> 00:45:17,840 dragged on d they're given their friends 1111 00:45:23,410 --> 00:45:21,440 have but even still they will do they 1112 00:45:25,540 --> 00:45:23,420 will use dr. Google they'll listen to 1113 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:25,550 their friends I'll read the the bad 1114 00:45:30,100 --> 00:45:27,770 information and to them they have done 1115 00:45:32,740 --> 00:45:30,110 their research well the trouble of dr. 1116 00:45:34,510 --> 00:45:32,750 google is it's easy to misread it so 1117 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:34,520 firstly you can pay to have your 1118 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:37,330 homepage put up there hi and secondly 1119 00:45:41,230 --> 00:45:39,650 high in the list of search engines and 1120 00:45:43,710 --> 00:45:41,240 secondly the fossil fuel companies have 1121 00:45:46,540 --> 00:45:43,720 been funding thousands literally 1122 00:45:48,730 --> 00:45:46,550 thousands of disinformation sites around 1123 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:48,740 the world so if you go searching on the 1124 00:45:53,290 --> 00:45:51,490 web and say really is Antarctica 1125 00:45:55,230 --> 00:45:53,300 increasing in ice and is the world 1126 00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:55,240 cooling down you get one of these 1127 00:46:00,070 --> 00:45:57,770 deliberate disinformation sites so you 1128 00:46:01,780 --> 00:46:00,080 can't just trust the first thing at your 1129 00:46:05,770 --> 00:46:01,790 root yeah and you never have been able 1130 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:05,780 to either like is a fact that if I give 1131 00:46:10,270 --> 00:46:08,930 you a sentence on a screen about the New 1132 00:46:12,580 --> 00:46:10,280 World Order and how the United Nations 1133 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:12,590 is try to turn us all into slaves if I 1134 00:46:18,850 --> 00:46:15,490 give that to you on a screen in bold 1135 00:46:21,950 --> 00:46:18,860 serif typeface which you can read easily 1136 00:46:24,530 --> 00:46:21,960 or sort of faded sands 1137 00:46:26,210 --> 00:46:24,540 vitalic you won't believe it either read 1138 00:46:27,859 --> 00:46:26,220 you believe it hard to read you won't 1139 00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:27,869 believe it so we want to simplify this 1140 00:46:33,079 --> 00:46:29,760 part of what wanting to simplify the 1141 00:46:35,030 --> 00:46:33,089 world down and what you find is if 1142 00:46:37,089 --> 00:46:35,040 somebody were to say he was a barking 1143 00:46:39,170 --> 00:46:37,099 mad person lying in their own vomit 1144 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:39,180 surround by dogs licking their words 1145 00:46:41,900 --> 00:46:40,650 they give you a bit of paper saying the 1146 00:46:43,940 --> 00:46:41,910 world is cooling down you wouldn't 1147 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:43,950 believe but if it's on a computer screen 1148 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:46,770 yeah oh wow I can read it easily it must 1149 00:46:53,270 --> 00:46:49,290 be true presentation taste absolutely 1150 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:53,280 it's and making mistakes I make mistakes 1151 00:46:57,020 --> 00:46:55,050 all the time like so I've already come 1152 00:46:59,210 --> 00:46:57,030 across for mistakes in my latest book 1153 00:47:01,450 --> 00:46:59,220 she'll be concise and there was one 1154 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:01,460 mistake i made about why your fingertips 1155 00:47:05,690 --> 00:47:04,050 wrinkle you go into a bath and stay 1156 00:47:07,730 --> 00:47:05,700 there for a long time prunes yeah they 1157 00:47:09,290 --> 00:47:07,740 prove i got that totally wrong and i got 1158 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:09,300 that wrong for two decades but as soon 1159 00:47:16,220 --> 00:47:12,930 as I found out I said so immediately and 1160 00:47:18,230 --> 00:47:16,230 public Italy in both on my podcast and 1161 00:47:20,180 --> 00:47:18,240 in writing on my home page I had made a 1162 00:47:21,890 --> 00:47:20,190 mistake I didn't try to cover it up and 1163 00:47:24,380 --> 00:47:21,900 say no what I meant was is I said yeah I 1164 00:47:26,620 --> 00:47:24,390 done wrong this is where I was wrong 1165 00:47:29,329 --> 00:47:26,630 with which is the scientific method 1166 00:47:31,190 --> 00:47:29,339 indeed which is counterintuitive hmm 1167 00:47:35,150 --> 00:47:31,200 scientists are different I remember I 1168 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:35,160 was sitting down at the table and 1169 00:47:37,790 --> 00:47:36,330 physically used to have such a theme 1170 00:47:40,609 --> 00:47:37,800 morning tea and ask them a question 1171 00:47:42,770 --> 00:47:40,619 about water droplets and so somebody 1172 00:47:44,390 --> 00:47:42,780 ringing the triple j said IMA I've been 1173 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:44,400 smoking all this dog I can't say another 1174 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:46,770 day obvious mogul his boss can I don't 1175 00:47:52,790 --> 00:47:49,290 open smoke yeah guys like that I've been 1176 00:47:56,150 --> 00:47:52,800 contemplating it was a big raining are 1177 00:47:57,500 --> 00:47:56,160 my veranda and this some rain does 1178 00:47:59,390 --> 00:47:57,510 little puddles at the front and 1179 00:48:02,359 --> 00:47:59,400 sometimes the wind blows from the north 1180 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:02,369 south east the west and so the raindrops 1181 00:48:08,540 --> 00:48:05,130 come from different directions but no 1182 00:48:13,940 --> 00:48:08,550 matter what direction the raindrops come 1183 00:48:17,210 --> 00:48:13,950 from the ripples are always circular and 1184 00:48:19,010 --> 00:48:17,220 I said you sure I said yeah so I ran it 1185 00:48:20,660 --> 00:48:19,020 past the clever people in physics and we 1186 00:48:22,250 --> 00:48:20,670 argued about it backwards and forwards 1187 00:48:23,720 --> 00:48:22,260 and all these professorial people said 1188 00:48:25,849 --> 00:48:23,730 it then finally one of the deep 1189 00:48:27,710 --> 00:48:25,859 professors after about 20 minutes as 1190 00:48:29,720 --> 00:48:27,720 we're coming to the end of t times I've 1191 00:48:33,140 --> 00:48:29,730 got it and everyone looked at and he 1192 00:48:34,670 --> 00:48:33,150 said all the wind does and gravity is 1193 00:48:39,130 --> 00:48:34,680 provide the initial in 1194 00:48:43,060 --> 00:48:39,140 pulse to the water the speed at which 1195 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:43,070 the ripple travels through the water is 1196 00:48:48,110 --> 00:48:46,650 entirely dependent upon the 1197 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:48,120 characteristics of the water thus our 1198 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:51,090 speed of sound in water so you might end 1199 00:48:54,170 --> 00:48:52,650 up with the water coming the water 1200 00:48:55,370 --> 00:48:54,180 droplet coming in an angle it might be 1201 00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:55,380 safe three millimeters by two 1202 00:49:00,950 --> 00:48:57,090 millimeters it might be slightly oval 1203 00:49:03,740 --> 00:49:00,960 but when it expands its 100 millimeters 1204 00:49:06,140 --> 00:49:03,750 by 101 200 millimeters by 201 1205 00:49:09,410 --> 00:49:06,150 millimeters and so the speed at which 1206 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:09,420 the ripples travel depends entirely upon 1207 00:49:12,470 --> 00:49:10,770 the properties of the water not the 1208 00:49:21,770 --> 00:49:12,480 initial impulse and all the other 1209 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:21,780 physicist when they saw the the solution 1210 00:49:24,350 --> 00:49:23,010 being given to them they said oh yeah 1211 00:49:26,780 --> 00:49:24,360 that's obviously the one that makes so 1212 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:26,790 much sense and not and they all said 1213 00:49:31,940 --> 00:49:29,130 yells wrong yeah so I just don't mind 1214 00:49:35,450 --> 00:49:31,950 saying they're wrong which is of course 1215 00:49:37,460 --> 00:49:35,460 counterintuitive general humans oh yeah 1216 00:49:40,460 --> 00:49:37,470 I do love a bit where they said sciences 1217 00:49:42,770 --> 00:49:40,470 of religion yeah we rely on belief and 1218 00:49:44,330 --> 00:49:42,780 gut feelings come later yes I just 1219 00:49:47,150 --> 00:49:44,340 another religion or science is just your 1220 00:49:49,940 --> 00:49:47,160 belief system I've heard it all to Karl 1221 00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:49,950 where can people take you out and our 1222 00:49:56,180 --> 00:49:53,040 latest book just go to dr. Carl calm dr 1223 00:49:58,790 --> 00:49:56,190 k RL calm and while it is very nice of 1224 00:50:01,100 --> 00:49:58,800 you to buy my books you can get most of 1225 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:01,110 the information for free on my homepage 1226 00:50:04,940 --> 00:50:02,970 in the great moments in science section 1227 00:50:07,670 --> 00:50:04,950 don't tell the bookseller I apologize 1228 00:50:09,290 --> 00:50:07,680 now it's not as long it'll it's only 1229 00:50:11,750 --> 00:50:09,300 about 600 words instead of eight hundred 1230 00:50:13,610 --> 00:50:11,760 or a thousand or 3,000 but the essential 1231 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:13,620 busy so if your bid broke just get it 1232 00:50:16,100 --> 00:50:14,850 for free off my homepage you don't have 1233 00:50:18,050 --> 00:50:16,110 to buy my books but I'll still love you 1234 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:18,060 more if you do now I love you equally 1235 00:50:23,030 --> 00:50:21,090 either way dr. Cole happy new year to 1236 00:50:24,890 --> 00:50:23,040 you and thank you very much yes oh how 1237 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:24,900 come they used to have one of the holy 1238 00:50:43,039 --> 00:50:27,450 days of obligation as New Year's Day my 1239 00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:45,900 I'm to help support the skeptic zone and 1240 00:50:52,039 --> 00:50:48,250 look pretty damn stylish while you're 1241 00:50:55,260 --> 00:50:52,049 about it visit mr. Katz origami jewelry 1242 00:50:57,930 --> 00:50:55,270 owww skip eggs on TV and click the link 1243 00:51:01,529 --> 00:50:57,940 or simply Google mr. Katz origami 1244 00:51:05,240 --> 00:51:01,539 jewelry also on Facebook pendants 1245 00:51:24,500 --> 00:51:05,250 earrings and cufflinks support mr. cat 1246 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:26,910 thank you for listening to the skeptic 1247 00:51:31,830 --> 00:51:28,570 zone and thank you very much dr. Karl 1248 00:51:33,750 --> 00:51:31,840 now I've invited dr. Karl in 2016 to 1249 00:51:35,460 --> 00:51:33,760 come along and join us at skeptics in 1250 00:51:39,210 --> 00:51:35,470 the pub in Sydney which is the first 1251 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:39,220 thursday of the month every month at the 1252 00:51:43,650 --> 00:51:41,770 crown hotel which is at a corner of 1253 00:51:46,830 --> 00:51:43,660 Goulburn and Elizabeth streets in Sydney 1254 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:46,840 just near museum station everybody is 1255 00:51:52,140 --> 00:51:49,450 welcome come along have a drink have 1256 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:52,150 some dinner if you're a believer or 1257 00:51:57,510 --> 00:51:54,970 skeptic or whatever come along and well 1258 00:51:59,490 --> 00:51:57,520 hopefully have a fun evening now 1259 00:52:02,850 --> 00:51:59,500 something that's been brought to my 1260 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:02,860 attention over the last few weeks it's a 1261 00:52:09,660 --> 00:52:06,450 product called patched PA TCH d 1262 00:52:11,460 --> 00:52:09,670 apostrophe D oh yes the new wonder 1263 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:11,470 product it's the size of a little chip 1264 00:52:16,970 --> 00:52:13,570 and you stick it on the back of your 1265 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:16,980 phone and it will protect your health or 1266 00:52:23,550 --> 00:52:21,850 will it now being very very wishy-washy 1267 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:23,560 with their claims I wrote to them saying 1268 00:52:26,730 --> 00:52:25,450 you're making quite amazing health 1269 00:52:28,470 --> 00:52:26,740 claims here and they wrote back saying 1270 00:52:30,810 --> 00:52:28,480 we're not making any health claims judge 1271 00:52:33,540 --> 00:52:30,820 for yourself this is an interesting 1272 00:52:40,830 --> 00:52:33,550 exercise for you budding skeptics if you 1273 00:52:43,050 --> 00:52:40,840 go to ww patch com PITC HD com click the 1274 00:52:45,660 --> 00:52:43,060 menu link and then you can click on how 1275 00:52:48,260 --> 00:52:45,670 patched works which I'm clicking on 1276 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:48,270 right now and you can read about their 1277 00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:52,810 science and what you might consider 1278 00:52:59,010 --> 00:52:56,170 doing then is going to Facebook to the 1279 00:53:02,310 --> 00:52:59,020 patched side on Facebook and leaving 1280 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:02,320 your polite comments please feel free to 1281 00:53:08,700 --> 00:53:06,010 question them about the science now 1282 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:08,710 needless to say quite frankly I'm 1283 00:53:15,630 --> 00:53:13,810 skeptical quite skeptical but there's 1284 00:53:17,940 --> 00:53:15,640 your holiday project if you so desire 1285 00:53:20,580 --> 00:53:17,950 why not check out patched have a look at 1286 00:53:23,340 --> 00:53:20,590 the science and you can let them know 1287 00:53:25,890 --> 00:53:23,350 whether you agree with their science or 1288 00:53:28,770 --> 00:53:25,900 don't any product that claims it reduces 1289 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:28,780 radiation by 95% and can protect 1290 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:31,090 sensitive parts of your body is 1291 00:53:36,819 --> 00:53:34,930 certainly worth investigation coming up 1292 00:53:40,479 --> 00:53:36,829 on the skeptic zone in 2016 1293 00:53:42,089 --> 00:53:40,489 who knows who knows I can't look into 1294 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:42,099 the future and neither can anybody else 1295 00:53:47,469 --> 00:53:45,890 no because I've been looking at 1296 00:53:50,009 --> 00:53:47,479 predictions for years and years and 1297 00:53:52,390 --> 00:53:50,019 years by Australia's best psychics oh 1298 00:53:54,099 --> 00:53:52,400 boy talking about ninety-five percent 1299 00:53:56,589 --> 00:53:54,109 that's what they get wrong by the way 1300 00:53:58,959 --> 00:53:56,599 but doubtless over the next few weeks 1301 00:54:00,519 --> 00:53:58,969 you'll see various people who claim to 1302 00:54:03,489 --> 00:54:00,529 be psychic popping up on morning 1303 00:54:06,609 --> 00:54:03,499 television in the newspapers making all 1304 00:54:09,249 --> 00:54:06,619 sorts of predictions for 2016 I make no 1305 00:54:12,190 --> 00:54:09,259 predictions for 2016 except to say that 1306 00:54:14,349 --> 00:54:12,200 I think it starts on Friday hmm have a 1307 00:54:18,630 --> 00:54:14,359 good new year's eve everybody be safe 1308 00:54:21,609 --> 00:54:18,640 don't drink and drive really just don't 1309 00:54:24,099 --> 00:54:21,619 but for this week for this year this is 1310 00:54:30,670 --> 00:54:24,109 Richard Saunders signing off from Sydney 1311 00:54:32,769 --> 00:54:30,680 Australia you've been listening to the 1312 00:54:36,999 --> 00:54:32,779 skeptics own podcast visit our website 1313 00:54:40,299 --> 00:54:37,009 at wwc a petting zoo TV for contacts an 1314 00:54:43,449 --> 00:54:40,309 archive of all episodes since 2008 and 1315 00:54:45,489 --> 00:54:43,459 our online store please support the 1316 00:54:48,849 --> 00:54:45,499 skeptic zone by following us on twitter 1317 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